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tmw
October 16th, 2002, 09:30 AM
wahoo woodbine weds tonight! love it

Here's one for you guys to ponder, you've seen me go off on tangents I change style like underwear right now I'm on a chalk run little different than before though I really qualify the chalk before I use it hopefully increasing the hits above what the public hits but here's where it gets interesting we all use the term value

scenerio 1

horse i have winning 1 out of every 2 times it races in these circumstance meaning a payout of 7/5 yeilds approx 25 % on my money

scenerio 2

horse I have winning 1 outta 4 times in these circumstances meaning a payout of 12.00 yeilds approx 25% on my money

This is of course all just subjective numbers used to illustrate my point hitting the 12.00 horse looks on the surface to be better but in theory if only hit 1/4 or 1/5 is now close to being the same

I haven't built enough data for my excell only have a 100 races difficult to simulate each horse I'm interested in I have to assign a value to or my best guess on it's winning percentage


food for thought

k9angunnr
October 16th, 2002, 09:42 AM
sounds good tmw....i love woodbine weds. also....boxed large exactor race #2 keeneland #1and#6

tmw
October 16th, 2002, 10:22 AM
Laurel r1 rakeen 1 unit

Suffolk r2 Torantial 2unit

Thistle r2 1 entry 2 unit

Satman
October 16th, 2002, 10:28 AM
Race #1
#4 Debauchery Win/Place

3-4 Box

Race #3
#2 Solar aces Win/Place

Satman

smokinjoe
October 16th, 2002, 10:42 AM
playen all and playen small plus exacta's(keeneland card

race 1 #1 and #9
race 2 #1 and #5
race 3 #1 and #5
race 4 #7 and #1
race 5 #10 and #11
race 6 #4 and #8
race 7 #3 and #5
race 8 #2 and #3
race 9 #4 and #9

glta

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 10:49 AM
good morning all
delaware rac 2
Rizzi Girl 1 3 7

newsence
October 16th, 2002, 11:01 AM
hey guys;

kee;
1st..#12..enlightning..12-1
.......#6..in case of wind..10-1


gl,new

Satman
October 16th, 2002, 11:03 AM
#4 places @ 3.20 7-4-3

#7 pis*ed on my parade

Satman

newsence
October 16th, 2002, 11:09 AM
tracks cancelled 10/16/02

ct
del
pha


new

tmw
October 16th, 2002, 11:14 AM
Race: 2 Win Place Show
1st 6 TORRANTULA 7.20 4.00 2.80
2nd 7 BLAZE COQUETTE 5.00 3.00
3rd 2 DAISY BE GOOD 3.40

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 11:17 AM
freehold race 2
#1, #4

HAT
October 16th, 2002, 11:18 AM
Hey all....

Been a while.

SA race 2.

Issues Falstaff

10 units win /20 units place.

BOL

tmw
October 16th, 2002, 11:18 AM
Race: 2 Win Place Show
1st 1 3.60 2.60 2.40
2nd 2 3.80 3.60

tmw
October 16th, 2002, 11:19 AM
um err....lol

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 11:19 AM
Lau race 2
Chloe's Quest

tmw
October 16th, 2002, 11:23 AM
Laurel r2 jodi 2 unit kinda sloppy there so be careful

newsence
October 16th, 2002, 11:24 AM
kee;
2nd..#9..seattle ash..5-1
.......#5..sheikh'nnotstirred..8-1
.......1/5/9 box


gl,new

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 11:29 AM
Well im off to a ****ty start ( then again i started yest off with a huge minus)
Freehold r2

1 Giggling 2.40

ctownraces
October 16th, 2002, 11:31 AM
laurel race 2 #1 to win

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 11:31 AM
SUF r3
swedish son to plc /show

tmw
October 16th, 2002, 11:36 AM
Race: 2 Win Place Show
1st 6 JODI'S WINGS 8.00 4.00 2.60
2nd 4 CHLOE'S QUEST 3.20 2.40
3rd 3 QUESTFORCAMELOT 2.80


Not bad for what shoulda been postime fav

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 11:39 AM
swedish son places 2.20

tmw
October 16th, 2002, 11:42 AM
Keene r3 #1 1 unit

ctownraces
October 16th, 2002, 11:42 AM
keenland race 2 #2 and #6 to win

Rocker2299
October 16th, 2002, 11:44 AM
Keeneland race 2 #9 WPS

Rocker2299
October 16th, 2002, 11:51 AM
Race: 2 Win Place Show
1st 9 SEATTLE ASH 10.20 6.00 3.80

ctownraces
October 16th, 2002, 11:51 AM
laurel race 3 #7 and #9 to win

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 11:51 AM
Keeneland - 2nd Race

1 9 Seattle Ash 10.20 6.00 3.80
2 4 Broad Breadth 5.60 3.80
3 6 Trumps Native Lady 3.40

newsence
October 16th, 2002, 11:56 AM
kee;
3rd..#8..pink..5-1
.......#4..tammany dash..6-1


ap;
1st..#6..perfect camber..6-1
.......#4..aloha carol..6-1


gl,new

Rocker2299
October 16th, 2002, 11:58 AM
Arlington race 1 EX BOX #1 & #6

newsence
October 16th, 2002, 12:14 PM
ap;
2nd..#4..rue des reves..8-1..137


gl,new

Satman
October 16th, 2002, 12:16 PM
#3 Solar Aces
Wnis @ 4.60 3.00

No Dwight but fits into Tm scenerio

Satman

Good to see a lot people are coming out to play today

newsence
October 16th, 2002, 12:18 PM
suf;
5th..#5..thundershower..6-1..137


gl,new

Rocker2299
October 16th, 2002, 12:18 PM
suffolk race 5 #2 WPS

tmw
October 16th, 2002, 12:28 PM
Race: 3 Win Place Show
1st 1 HONORABLE PEACE 2.80 2.40 2.10
2nd 2 REIGN ON ME 5.20 4.40
3rd 5 I REMEMBER YOU 4.60


Like a Party in here today cool and good shootin by everyone too


Laurel r5 1 entry 1 unit

newsence
October 16th, 2002, 12:41 PM
RACE 5 @ SUF;
#5 THUNDERSHOWER 7.00 4.20 2.60
#3 EL GRAN MARCUS 5.40 2.80
#7 CAMPUS KING 2.60


ap;
3rd..#1..zennamatic..5-2
.......#3..chris's turn..5-1


kee;
4th..#4..landana..6-1
.......#2..mt vaughan..8-1


gl,new

newsence
October 16th, 2002, 12:58 PM
kee;
5th..#6..popular kat..15-1..137


ap;
4th..#5..tia maria..4-1..137


gl,new

tmw
October 16th, 2002, 01:09 PM
Laurel

r6 #2
r7 #7

small pik 3 2/7/6

Turf r2 #2

ctownraces
October 16th, 2002, 01:14 PM
keenland race 5 #7 across and a 7-11 ex box

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 01:16 PM
freehold r8
sippy

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 01:17 PM
thisledown race 8
Chief Mandu

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 01:23 PM
freehold r8
4 sippy 4.80 2.80

Satman
October 16th, 2002, 01:24 PM
#1 I'llcallyourbluff ( 1 3 7 )

Satman

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 01:26 PM
suffolk r8
horse #10 137

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 01:31 PM
thisledown race 8
Chief Mandu 3.20 2.40

newsence
October 16th, 2002, 01:32 PM
RACE 4 @ AP;
#7 KATE THE GREAT 5.40 4.20 3.40
#2 JEWELIA 13.20 8.00
#5 TIA MARIA 4.40


ap;
5th..#8..call me loverboy..5-1
.......#12..torrid sand..5-1


gl,new

tmw
October 16th, 2002, 01:33 PM
Race: 6 Win Place Show
1st 2 PLUCKY BROAD 3.20 2.40 2.10
2nd 4 BANNERS WAVE 3.80 2.60
3rd 1 HEAVEN'S MIST 2.60

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 01:34 PM
freehold race 9
natalie m to show

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 01:36 PM
Do you guys mind me posting so much?

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 01:39 PM
Suffolk r8
Jolie Girlie shows 3.00

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 01:42 PM
freehold r9
natalie m places 2.40


this is it untill for the day for me
TO ALL , HAVE A PROFITABLE DAY

tmw
October 16th, 2002, 01:53 PM
There's no one that posts more than me...lol post away Bud

newsence
October 16th, 2002, 01:56 PM
geek;
in response to your question.
it doesn't bother me in the slightest.
the more the merrier. in fact i might learn a little about trotters from you.i don't have a clue about them.

where do you get your pps for freehold ??


gl,new

newsence
October 16th, 2002, 02:02 PM
ap;
6th..#5..commander hal..10-1
.......#7..jink..20-1


kee;
7th..#3..fast city..5-1..137


gl,new

SeattleSlew
October 16th, 2002, 02:18 PM
What's up guys.....


Keeneland Race 7
#4 Silver Bishop, #9 Spotted Owl (playing both to win)


SLEW

newsence
October 16th, 2002, 02:41 PM
hey slew;


ap;
7th..#6..evie's bearcat..5-1..137

kee;
8th..#4..dorothy ann..6-1..137


gl,new

k9angunnr
October 16th, 2002, 02:46 PM
Keenland # 2 silent stream

SeattleSlew
October 16th, 2002, 02:49 PM
Like that one at Keeneland, new...

Keeneland Race 8
#4 Dorothy Ann @ ml 6/1 (win/place)

SLEW

ctownraces
October 16th, 2002, 03:08 PM
keenland race 9 #1 and #9 to win

newsence
October 16th, 2002, 03:12 PM
kee;
9th..#9..buckhari..6-1
.......#6..super chief..10-1


ap;
8th..#7..ahmagooden..6-1
.......#4..head in..5-1
9th..#6..princess modiste..10-1
.......#9..tours energy..8-1


gl,new

newsence
October 16th, 2002, 03:35 PM
three for the meadowlands tonight;

med;
1st..#5..salt whistle bay..5-1
3rd..#4..four bucks n a doe..8-1
9th..#5..bamboo belle..5-1


gl,new

newsence
October 16th, 2002, 03:52 PM
RACE 9 @ AP;
#6 PRINCESS MODISTE 8.40 5.00 3.00
#9 TOUR'S ENERGY 5.80 3.60
#4 PRECIOUS PRADO 3.40
EX 42.60


NEW

tmw
October 16th, 2002, 04:21 PM
Wood r1 Just of win,place

cigar
October 16th, 2002, 04:22 PM
6th @ Santa Anita
#8 Make The Deal - 10 units to win
2 unit exacta box 1-5-8

Satman
October 16th, 2002, 04:38 PM
Saw a report: track is sloppy rain and 48 degrees

Just an update

Satman
October 16th, 2002, 04:47 PM
Good call Cig !!!!

Sat

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 04:51 PM
i look at yahoo horse racing , which has all the race including freehold

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 04:54 PM
Northfield Park r 1
#4 to plc show

tmw
October 16th, 2002, 04:55 PM
Very sloppy gonna try a couple more

Wood r2 win randy win,place

cigar
October 16th, 2002, 05:00 PM
Race: 6 Win Place Show
1st 8 MAKE THE DEAL 11.20 6.60 4.20
2nd 6 EL PRADO IN ACTION 14.60 7.20
3rd 7 WIN JOLLEY 3.40


Thanks Sat

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 05:02 PM
northfield r1
4 Sonic Scot 5.00 2.80 2.20

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 05:09 PM
Turf Paradise last race for the night R9
#6 plc shw

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 05:11 PM
Bay medows r8
#5 plc show

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 05:15 PM
Penn National R1
#6
only 7 racing in field of 10

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 05:17 PM
meadowlands r1
#3

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 05:26 PM
BAY MEADOWS R8
twelveyearslater - places 9.60 4.20


This was the biggest prize money ever for me

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 05:29 PM
Penn National
6 Game Skipper -> PLACES 5.40 2.60

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 05:33 PM
Turf Paradise R9
Ava's Delight -> PLACES 3.00 2.20

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 05:35 PM
Meadowlands R1
Billy Be Normal -> PLACES 4.80 2.40

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 05:37 PM
Penn Nationals R2
#1 CHAMPAGNEFORJOANNE to place show

tmw
October 16th, 2002, 05:40 PM
Nice Cig!

Sports you've gone crazy

Race: 1 Win Place Show
1st 5 BRATTOTHECORE 7.80 3.70 2.80
2nd 2 JUST FOR JEAN 2.90 2.40
3rd 1 SIRONA GOLD 2.90


wood

r3 7,3
r4 4,5

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 05:45 PM
MEadowlands R2
#3 10 units to show

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 05:46 PM
TMW is that a bad thing?

tmw
October 16th, 2002, 05:53 PM
Nope been my downfall if I play too many pcs, I'm deadmeat but that's not true for everyone, if your hittin go for it. I think it't my own shortcoming when I don't press or strike while the iron's hot thing

GL Tm

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 05:55 PM
Woodbine R3

SHOWS :(
Royal Ascot 2.60

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 05:57 PM
PENN NATIONAL R2
1 Champagneforjoanne 7.00 3.60 2.80

WOOOOOOHOOOOO

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 06:00 PM
Meadowlands R2
3 Cassandra Terms 2.40

ok im taking a 30 min break to slow down my heart beat
WHAT A RUSH

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 06:31 PM
Northfield Park R6
Lawman Hall plc show

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 06:35 PM
Meadowlands R4
#3 plc/shw

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 06:37 PM
Woodbine R5
#3 to show 10 unit

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 06:41 PM
Northfield R6
Lawnman WINS -> 17.00 5.60 4.20

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 06:45 PM
Meadowlands R4
3 Is That You -> PLACES 5.40 2.60

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 07:00 PM
WOODBINE R5
#3 wins 11.40 6.00 5.70

THATS ALL FOLKS FOR THE NIGHT , with this one i reached and beat my set target for the night


THE GEEK

newsence
October 16th, 2002, 07:36 PM
wow geek,looks like you had a great day!!
just don't have a heart attack on us...ok??

med;
7th..#8..lightnin mike..8-1


gl,new

newsence
October 16th, 2002, 07:57 PM
med;
8th..#7..diamond cruz..7-2


gl,new

k9angunnr
October 16th, 2002, 08:29 PM
Meadowlands 9th #3 wicked 137 8-1

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 09:24 PM
FINE ONE MORE

MAYWOOD R9
1 to shw

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 09:38 PM
Maywood R9
#1 SHOWS -> 2.40

SportsGeek
October 16th, 2002, 09:39 PM
MAYWOOD R10
#1,3 to show