BC Classic

[Finishfast]

I saw that War Emblem was the 3-1 fave in the Classic. Just wondering - is there any early speed to soften him up? He was a good inside post and a wire to wire job is the only way that he gets the job done. Anythoughts?

[SeattleSlew]

Medaglia and especially E Dubai will keep War Emblem honest. E Dubai drew to the inside of WE (on the rail), so it will be interesting to see how that plays out....If E Dubai breaks slowly or gets shut-off, then WE could get a much more moderate pace.

SLEW

[Moss84]

Pace has not mattered with WE except when he stumbled...he will set the pace....War Emblem is so much better the these horses....if you want to bet that he gets a bad start.....more power to you.....War Emblem wins this easily if he gets a good start...


Medalia hasnt even phased War Emblem, Slew....and E Dubai cant go the distance and if he does he will lose E Dubai ran one good race this year...if I get War Emblem at 3/1....Thank you for your money....


Moss

[Moss84]

Pace has not mattered with WE except when he stumbled...he will set the pace....War Emblem is so much better the these horses....if you want to bet that he gets a bad start.....more power to you.....War Emblem wins this easily if he gets a good start...


Medalia hasnt even phased War Emblem, Slew....and E Dubai cant go the distance and if he does he will lose E Dubai ran one good race this year...if I get War Emblem at 3/1....Thank you for your money....


Moss

[SeattleSlew]

Pace always matters, Moss.....

It's pace that did not allow WE to assume command in his most recent loss. WE has shown the most stamina and the most power of anyone in this field, but he must have a couple of CRUCIAL things go his way...And E Dubai to his inside will be his first challenge; because E Dubai is one-dimensional as well, he will go all-out to the lead and the faster the early splits the slimmer WE's chances...

But you could pick someone a lot worse than War Emblem for the win, I mean he's the morning-line favorite - you aren't putting a flag anywhere, lol...

If you're tickled pink with 3/1 you'll be happy to know that Olympic offers WE right now at 5/1....if he drifts past that on BC day, me and you could be betting the same horse for the first time ever....

If you're happy with 5/1, go get it.....maybe you will be thanking me Saturday when your hero wins..

SLEW

[cigar]

Medaglia d'Oro - 30 units to win @ 5/1

Bob Bafert said when discussing the million dollar private purchase of War Emblem before the Derby he would give 7 million for Medaglia d'Oro. Ever since then I have closely followed this one as I think Bafert may have the best eye for horses of anyone. I have watched all the Works shows on TVG and read everything I could find on how the Breeder's Cup horses are coming into Saturday. Everyone that has observed Medaglia d'Oro says he is training wonderfully and looks much bigger and stronger than when he was on the Triple Crown trail. The Daily Racing Form clocker said he made the most favorable impression on him of any of the horse running this Saturday. He has the high beyers in the race at 120, but he did have everything his way that day (just as War Emblem did in the Ill Derby, Kentucky Derby and Haskell). I think this horse is sitting on a monster race and Frankel has pointed he towards this race since the Jim Dandy. The main concern is the pace with several in here with a similar style to her, Front or presser type, hopefully she can rate just off the speed. I will leave all that to the best in the game, Jerry Bailey.

War Emblem - Alot has changed since I was the only one touting this horse and most were on Medaglia d'Oro, now I am on Medaglia d'Oro and alot of people will be on War Emblem. This horse is training well, except that Bafert has been trying to teach this horse to rate in his workout, holding him behind workmate in 7 furlong workouts. He fights the bit very hard and is not relaxed when they try this, but expodes when they let him go. So I don't know if he will try for the lead, although Frank Lyons and Tom Amoss on TVG didn't think he appeared to be rating very comfortably in workouts and said it would be much harder to do in a race. I don't like his chances if he can't rate and I don't think he can effectively. E Dubia will make the lead , just look at his fractions, several faster than War Emblem's best for 6 furlongs. Also Chavez up for the mount indicates that too.

E Dubia - I liked this horses chances alot as he ran the last 1/4 of the mile and a quarter Suburban in an awesome 23 4/5. But, I have since learned of the badly bruised foot this horse had this summer and the assistant trainor said he wish he had more time before the race. I got the impression the horse is not ready to go a mile and a quarter and the foot may not be completely healed. This could help War Emblem and Medaglia d'Oro. He should be a pace factor but a complete throwout for me due to injury and fitness.

Perfect Drift - This is another horse that had some kind of small hoof injury ealier this week. Connections say it is fine, but I am throwing him out as he needs big improvement to win here and that usually does happen with hoof problems.

Dollar Bill - All reports on this horse claim he is training great. Would not be surprised to see he coming late and get a piece as the race may set up well for closers.

Macho Uno - Trainor is high on this one & Stevens back up. Closer, may get part.

Evening Attire - Seems like every on TVG, ect. are on this horse. He is a closer, but this is a much tougher spot than the last two races have been. He is working great according to DRF and TVG people and looks great at Arington. A contendor, but will be over bet and I don't think he is any better than half of these.

Harlan's Holiday - This horse appears to be training very well too and really filled out since Derby. Thomas Amoss was so impressed with him, he made him his choice for the Classic. Could take another step foward and trainor said he would rate him off the pace.

Hawk Wing - Several people think this horse could be the Giant Causeway or Sakee of this year. I recall both of those horses being world beaters in Europe and having Timeform ratings of around 135. His top is 127 (which equals about 113 beyers). He looks very average for this race to me. He is bred to like the dirt and Frank Lyons said his running action is perfect for the dirt. I think he will be over bet and I will leave him out unless he goes to 12 or 15/1, which I don't see.

Came Home - I just don't think this horse really wants to go 1 1/4 even though he stuck it up my _ _ _ in the Pacific Classic. I will let him beat me again and through him out.

Milwaukee Brew - Same as Evening Attire, Doller Bill and Macho Uno. Could get part.

[Hermis]

I play a five horse triactor box in each race every year at the Breeders Cup (costs $120 per race and cashed over $23,000 last year) and although I haven't finished looking the card over I already tossed War Emblem from consideration in the Classic. I would be very surprised if he finished on the board in this field. There should be plenty of pace to soften up a horse like War Emblem, who enters this race well below peak form. If Hawk Wing is the horse many European analysts suggest, he will be very difficult to leave off any exotic tickets. Good luck to all, should be a great day of racing.